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'll cover that with our headliners. senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo, he's here live on what can be done to stop the fighting. >>> and -- >> i'm jonathan karl, i'm going to show you how this clipper will bring bipartisanship to washington. >>> hello, again. you just saw one small step for bipartisanship, is there more to come in washington? congress is back to work this week. top priority, a deal to block those automatic spending cuts and tax increases now set for january 1st, and some smart money is starting to bet that the president and congress will find a way to avoid that fiscal cliff. stocks up this week in anticipation of a deal with the dow clocking five straight of gains. and black friday consumer spending was down as well. now let's bring in t number one senator dick durbin and top republican lindsey graham. senator, welcome in. senato
, durbin of illinois tad saying nothing should be left off the table in search of budget cuts, and new sources of revenue, the assistant majority leader allowing the changes in the president's signature legislative achievement should be on the table. that's right, obamacare. >> put everything on the table. repeat, put everything on the tail, not just taxes and revenue, but spending cuts and entitlement reform. the only perfect law i know was carried down a mountain by senator moses. lou: what should be positive words for republicans tempered by the fact that senator durbin has no standing as the president's representative in the negotiation, and harry reid is telling a far different stories. john boehner and his caucus, the target, again, of senator reid's blame game. the senate majority leader insistent that republicans are the only onee in the way of the deal. reid asked point blank what the first thing would be, and he offered this curious answer. >> well, remember, we've already done more than a billion dollars worth of cuts. we've already done that. we need to get some credit for
now, 30 years. dick durbin, wanted that. i will sign onto that, a democrat. we don't have the time. we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the point dick durbin couldn't sell it. >> dick durbin couldn't sell peanut butter to children. megyn: was raising retirement age one year, 20 or 30 years from now. >> here's the deal. the simpson-bowles commission was only a starter. it wasn't a solution. the reality is this government is too big, growing too fast, trying to do too much for too many. a child, a 12-year-old with a basic understanding in this country that would equate to, a second grade math comprehension could understand this isn't working. and we have people playing such games, such silly games in washington. and do we go over the cliff? right now i would say the odds are very high that we do because these people have no appreciation for their responsibilities. either to themselves, their constituents or to the country. megyn: lou dobbs, always interesting talk
back. that was senator dick durbin of illinois who voted for the simpson/bowles plan and today he served on the commission and voted for the proposal. i'll say it again and again even though it includes significant entitlement cuts and he as a democrat doesn't like that. the upcoming december 31st deadline, the so-called cliff, anything from that fiscal cliff to that fiscal slope. liberals are saying to that austerity bomb that progressive people don't like at all. former senator alan simpson proposed a plan to get the united states financial house in order that some say was our best shot at solvency. and avoiding the mess that awaits us come december 31st. senator simpson, it's always an honor. politics, i know you understand the irony of politics, it makes strange bedfellows. i want to try something by you. the president wants a deal. the president would obviously like to include something on revenues. the conservatives may not want to go along with that. but if it will include something on revenues. the best push is coming from people i don't normally side with like tom donohue
, there's also hand wringing over what senator dick durbin said in the speech at the center for american progress and we have this, dick durbin, not what he said but didn't say and preparled remarks he said progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of the social security, medicare and medicaid but those conversations should not be a part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff and prepared remarks. he didn't say that in the speech. you have a lot of republicans on the -- excuse me, democrats on the left greatly concerned about what will happen to medicare and quite honestly not ready to put that conversation on the table. >> well, i think that's correct. you're speaking about a certain percentage of democrats. i would include in that list bernie sander who is sent out an e-mail blast today saying medicare, medicare and social security should all be off the table. now, in reality, i think social security really can be and should be off the table because it's not a contributor to the federal deficit. it's well funded for decades ahead but if you look a
satellite corp. 2012] >> also live in washington this morning, coming up at 11:30 a.m., dick durbin will be speaking about the so-called fiscal cliff and that is a reduction -- and deficit reduction. we will have that live here on c-span at 11:30 a.m. eastern. over at the white house today, president obama is meeting with small business owners. at 12:30, jay carney will hold a press briefing and take questions from reporters. this afternoon, the president and vice president will meet with the mexican president who takes office december 1. the press briefing today at 12:30. on capitol hill, the house of representatives returns today at 2:00 p.m. eastern on their agenda this afternoon five bills including a measure requiring the department of a homeland security to report on security. later this week, a student visa program. also this week, the democratic leadership elections. that will be coming up later this week. live coverage of the house at 2:00 p.m. eastern. a number of senators have been meeting with u.n. ambassador susan rice in the wake of her comments following the attack on
is this this is an interesting comment. dick durbin has been on the show and he's so rational and open to compromise. he was open to closing loopholes and not raising rates. he's a rational man, and he said yesterday that democrats shouldn't be talking about cutting social security. here he is. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. it's a separate funded operation. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing, so those who say don't touch it or change it are ignoring the obvious. >> will democrats have the courage to make serious cuts to medicare and not two years over ten years? >> first of all, i think there's a serious cut, and a lot of people that say that people would defer it. >> i'm not implying it's not a serious cut. i'm sorry. i meant you had to do it over a smaller period of time. >> right. i understand. but i want to go back to senator durbin's point. if you want to do something social security, do it. leave social security in the debt aside for the moment, because it doesn't drive debt. i think senator durbin is right on that. they have to negotiat
principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the cliff. because the cliff is president obama's and the congressional democrats leverage over republicans. if we do go off the cliff or the curb on january 1st, a republican nightmare will occur. all income tax rates will go up and defense spending will be cut by 600 billion. other spending, some of it dear to republicans, will also be cut by another 600 billion. the fiscal cliff is much scarier to republicans than it is to democrats. so, the president and his allies must continue to make republicans believe they are willing to go off cliff
to the democratic base. yesterday the senate's number two democrat dick durbin went to the liberal center for american progress and argued that in order to be, quote, part of the conversations progressives will have to accept some hard truths. >> we need to be open to some topics, some issues that are painful and hard for us to talk abo about. we cannot stand by the sidelines in denial untouched, unamended, medicare is going to run out of money in 12 years. that is scary. >> but it's what durbin didn't say that was striking. in his prepared remarks durbin was going to say the following. quote, progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of social security, medicare and medicaid, but those conversations should not be part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. durbin never said those remarks. he left that out. he later said he stood by those comments, and he did argue that medicare shouldn't be part of any up front down payment on the debt but part of the next year's long longer term negotiation. now while the short term talk to republicans may be toug
. >> we need to put evening on the table. >> but dick durbin expressed concerns if raising edge for medicare. >> there will be gaps in coverage. >> another chairman max baucus told the newspaper in his home state the wish list for the debt talk includes more money. tax credit for wind farms in montana, protecting rural hospitals and ending the estate tax. others are going further urging the president to allow the nation to dive off the cliff with the automatic touch to pentagon -- cuts to pentagon ib stead of to domestic programs. >> on the question of leadership, the white house aides say the past weekend, the president called both senator reid and speaker boehner to get things going. there is a talk of a immediating at the white house later this week. >> ed henry live on the north lawn. thank you. stocks were mixed. the dow lost 42. nasdaq gained ten. they are still trying to find a deal for bail-out money for greece. they failed to reach an agreement twice in two weeks. mary schapiro is leaving next month. she will be replaced by the sikh commission member elite walter. you m
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to in 2011. majority leader harry reid has ruled that out this time and the number two democrat durbin repeated reid's position on sunday. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things, and i believe we should, now, smaller things, played out over the longer term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. >> there's still staff level discussions going on. and, by the way, as much as washington gets caught up in the conventional wisdom of what senators are saying, remember right now the senate are 100 ehechted pundits. the game is between the white house and house republicans for now. at some point the action could move to the senate. but right now it's about the house. it's a possibility at some point folks on capitol hill expect the white house to call another meeting of boehner, mcconnell, reid and pelosi along with the president. at some point this week. though nothing is scheduled. the first major appointment that the president makes will probably come in the next week to ten days. just two candidat
weeks. megyn: great to see you. dick durbin will talk about income dave repbgsin differentials in this country. we'll talk about it. megyn: some are calling it the scariest prank ever but it also may be the funnist. however, in between the laughs and the gasps are horror there is a real question about whether this brazilian tv show crossed a legal line with its ghost in an elevator prank. watch. ♪ [screaming] [laughter] megyn: everyone here thinks it's funny, but the question is, is it legal? there could be potential liability here, and we will debate it in today's "kelly's court," i'm taking your tweets on it, follow me@megyn kelly in between now and the court. this one is not so funny. off we go to russia and new worries about the world's worst nuclear nightmare. more than 25 years after the meltdown at the chernoble tpaoubg lar plant workers in the soviet republican of ukraine are beginning to build a giant cap over the facility's still dangerously actor. trace gallagher has that story live from l.a. >> after the disaster the first reaction was to try and cap the radiation
. this is what it's all about. the money. who is going to get it? senator dick durbin. a little more specific today. he said progressives, that would be you and me, should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of medicare and medicaid but those conversations should not be part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. democrats are prepared to discuss reforms to medicare and medicaid, but not right now. fox news tried to get budget committee chair member congressman chris van hollen to agree to the changes. van hollen stood firm. >> if you prolong the program, people are living longer, isn't that age outvoted? >> there are a lot better ways to have doing it? >> you're not willing to change the age? >> no. because there are much better ways of dealing with medicare costs. >> it's just so heart warming that somebody on fox news thinks i'm going to live a little longer. social security is off the table. white house press secretary jay ke kearney kiss missed any changes saying it's not, it is not the driver of the deficit. this is a step in the right direction for more than 5
, it is offered up now, dick durbin is still talking about how they call it reform. they're cutting it, cutting it, cutting medicaid, unquestionably, that has been offered every single time and they'll cut it. they are going to lower corporate taxes. the president agrees as i just showed you set in stone, they are going to lower corporate taxes. then, they're also going to cult the home mortgage deduction. there are some open questions about that including the home mortgage deduction. what's still on the line? this morning as we're cooking this segment up, i put up social security, something i've been talking about a long time. we don't know if they're going to cut social security. that's less clear than medicare and medicaid. good news on that front today dick durbin coming out and saying the house democrats and inoperable president obama told republicans social security for the purposes of this negotiation is off the table. if they go back on that, it will be nuclear. ok? so that's -- it looks like hey we might have saved social security, great fighters like bernie sanders fought really hard to
, stabenow, cantwell, schumer, durbin, mr. johnson of south dakota, bennet, blumenthal, whitehouse, and collins be add as cosponsors to my amendment number 2985. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. mr. udall:man, i yield the floor. -- mr. president, i yield the floor and note the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: quorum call: the presiding officer: without objection, senator from michigan is recognized. mr. levin: i ask for the yeas and nays. the presiding officer: is there a sufficient second? there appears to be. the clerk will call the roll on the amendment. vote: vote: vote: the presiding officer: are there any other senators in the chamber who desire to vote or to change their vote? if not, the yeas are 62, the nays are 37. the amendment is agreed to. a senator: i move to reconsider. the presiding officer: without objection, so ordered. the senator from michigan is recognized. mr. levin: mr. president, i would now ask unanimous consent that we proceed to consideration of an amendment by -- amendment numbere
. >> dick durbin says that as talks continue on the so-called fiscal cliff, democrats must be open to what he calls painful topics, including medicare and medicaid. he was at the center for american progress for about 45 minutes. >> good morning, everyone. thank you for being here. i am the president of the center for american progress. we are thrilled to have senator durbin here today to talk about his views on the fiscal cliff. as we engage in this debate, i wanted to lay out a few principles that are critical as washington becomes obsessed with this set of issues. the elections have consequences. at c.a.p., we have argued that the issues that are really framing the fiscal debate and fiscal cliff were ones that were litigated in the election context. the president did not have one set of conversations before november and a second set now. there was a thread going through the debate that the country was having and that thread was around having a balanced plan to address america's fiscal challenges. there are serious fiscal challenges that we do need long term -- deficit reduction -- that
dick durbin was over at the senator for american progress yesterday and he made it very, very clear that when the word entitlement reform is used or the phrase, there's one thing it should not include. here's senator durbin. >> i think we should take social security off the table for the current fiscal cliff and deficit discussion but be very honest about what we're going to achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of a simpson bowles commission for social security and give them eight months to a year, a directive to come up with a plan to buy 75 years of solvency for social security. >> bill: social security is really a different issue isn't it? >> absolutely. it is. i would agree with senator durbin absolutely. i'll give you a reform in medicare i think democrats would support. and that is looking at prescription drugs. and making it more competitive. >> bill: amen. >> or really crackening down on the fraud that takes place through the medical devices which is not with individuals c
dick durbin says medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations, but insist social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things, and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing willingness for reform -- >> can we talk about that for a second? >> i don't want to repeat what you said. >> it's bull hockey. >> that's not what you said. >> this whole thing has been a complete farce for years. there's no trust fund. they raided that a long time ago. but the bigger point, i will because you know what? my heart has grown like the grinch's since thanksgiving. i have so much to be thankful for. >> it's been growing ever since election day, basically. >> so i'm going to be kind. first of all, senator durbin deserves respect on this front because he
will pay its bills, now it's time to make sure that all americans can bay theirs. senator durbin? >> with this vote of 74-26, we have averted a crisis. america has avoided defaulting for the first time in our history on our national debt. the fears and concerns of americans across the board were considered by this congress, and as a result we've come together on a bipartisan basis. i did not vote for this with a great deal of enthusiasm because the down payment on the deficit included in this bill comes primarily from working families and those who are struggling in america. if we are going to have true deficit reduction and address this debt, we have to put everything on the table and bring everyone to the table for shared sacrifice. the joint committee has a particular responsibility here called on together another one to one and a half trillion dollars in savings. let us make sure that when we do it, we do it in a fair and just manner for all the people in america. and when we return, as senator schumer will spell out, that we address the number one issue in america, creating
on the table. they don't want to raise tax rates. democrats are saying like dick durbin on abc this week says let's put everything on the table including entitlement reform but then in the next moment dick durbin says he doesn't want to change medicare. take a listen. >> we have got to make sure that there is seemless coverage of affordable health insurance for every american. my concern about raising that medicare retirement age is there will be gaps in coverage. this has been the problem so far. republicans don't want to give in on taxes they say they will will, they will make some concessions but they haven't yet. democrats say they are willing to work and make concessions on entitlement reform but sketchy on the details. both sides know what they need to do to find common ground but they haven't done it yet. >> ed henry at the white house. thanks. president obama has chosen a new head of the securities and exchange regulation. who heads wall street. her name is elise walter. she has been a member of the commission since president george w. bush appointed her in 2008. she is set now to rep
, those facts make forging a deal structurally very difficult. on monday senator dick durbin admitted what we've been hearing behind the scenes. very little has been accomplished on negotiations on the staff level. >> now for ten days not much has happened. there's been a big thanksgiving break. a lot of turkey and stuffing. but now let's get back to business. >> although the white house said they remain optimistic, there doesn't appear to be a plan for another leadership meeting until progress is made between the white house team negotiating a deal that's led by secretary geithner but the house republicans, specifically in boehner's shop. in the meantime, to create the appearance of momentum behind his plan, the president is stepping up his schedule, will hold a meeting today. the white house, 15 small business owners from the retail health care transportation and construction sectors. tomorrow ceos for the second time in two weeks go into the white house. middle class americans from around the country who the white house says will suffer if no deal is done also come to the white house we
've really got to be willing to as dick durbin said, to sit down and negotiate. >> those were senators dick durbin on "morning joe" and jeanne shaheen on chris jansing discussing entitlement programs. richard and joy, how much leverage does president obama have with the left in terms of making a deal with republicans on medicaid, medicare, social security? >> none. he never does. are you kidding? the left will be disappointed like the day after inauguration day. at the end of the day -- it's kind of a subversive thought but we just had wealthy seniors, seniors in general, vote to get rid of medicare, right? they voted to get rid of medicare as long as no one touched them. if there's some changes that need to be made to the medicare ben fits of wealthy seniors i don't think democrats should make that the hill they die on. that's me. i think democrats are still going to want entitlement programs held harmless. that is true for medicaid and social security. there are things you can theoretically do in terms of raising the cap on how much income is taxed for medicare. things that wouldn't hurt
, a wealthy state. i spoke with senator dick durbin two weeks ago, and we were talking about a compromise, if there was a way to raise the money from the wealthy that the president wants to get from raising tax rates on people or households making over $250,000, whether there was another way to do it. here's another clip of that. >> -- did an analysis saying you could cap deductions at $35,000 and have the estate tax go back to where it was and you get $1.3 trillion. you cap deductions at $25,000 and you've got $1.3 trillion. i'm simply making the point, there's a lot of ways to get there that don't involve raising tax rates, is that a compromise you'd ever consider? >> erin, you're exactly right. but i think what the president's trying to say is let's protect working families. those making less than $250,000 a year, no tax increase for them. we can do it either through the rates or through the deductions in the code, you've given a good illustration. >> and what do you think about that senator warren. durbin making it clear he's -- there's a lot of different ways to get there. would you
to make sure they go up now. dick durbin, number two senate democrat and close to the white house and gave a speech yesterday about the entitlement aspect. medicare, medicaid. the entitlement aspect and basically said we don't want entitlements to be part of the immediate talks january 1st but think as democrats they should be part of longer terms talks for next year. i'm just wondering, is there a sense from the white house among democrats of what it is they're prepared to give in on on terms of entitlement? >> not enough to satisfy the republicans, this's for sure. they say up here they have seen nothing. unfortunately, the few people who are beginning to even talk about the need for eventual compromise like a tom cole, like a dick durbin are quickly getting smacked down here, particularly on the republican side. that congressman just got a spanking from john boehner in front of his caucus today so there's -- doesn't seem to be any movement in that direction. i was at a breakfast with bowles and simpson this morning and erskine bowles saying he think there is's a 1 in 3 chance of this wo
is a cave caveat, senator dick durbin is taking a hard line approach. quote, we can't be so naive to believe that just taxing the rich will solve our problems and put everything on the table, repeat. everything on the table. and that's the left of center dick durbin. yesterday, t was taxes, today, there's entitlements, tte impasse continues as we countdown to that deadline. next case, china, clearly the number one world's polluter and criticizes us for not doing enough about climate change, a global carbon tax could be coming, are we going to have to pay? we'll talk to a leading environmentalist after the break and of course, we will have the opening belfour you next. bell for you next. >> all right, just a few seconds away from the opening bell. the futures suggest we're going be to be down nearly 40 points. of we have this fiscal cliff and it's a deadline, the tax increases and more huge spending cuts it seems like the two sides are on impasse it looks likes it's shifted to entitlement reform or cuts and no serious movements in the negotiations and check the big board, the opening trendd
's talk about senator dick durbin and president obama's pledged to richard trumka and randi weingarten about no cuts in spending. we don't think to talk about -- demonize them. our center dick durbin and president obama have made it clear they will accept no spending cuts. they made this clear to the union chief. -- our senator from illinois dick durbin. host: what should republicans do or not do? our last caller said republicans should be willing to go over the cliff, it necessary. caller: we should shut the government down, if they cannot agree to any spending cuts. we will be coming up to the debt limit again. they should shut the government down. we will see how the government runs without all these extra programs. senator coburn has identified all the duplication and waste in the government. it is ridiculous that they don't even talk about that. host: senator durban from illinois, let's look and his comments on abc yesterday. he is talking about what democrats would be willing to do to avoid the fiscal cliff. [video clip] >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not
durbin, democratic senator from illinois. he is very close to the president. he is introduced him at every major political event since he came into public office from illinois. he will have a press conference today. he is going to make a speech that says medicare and medicaid should be looked at but not part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. so if that is the case you change that at all right now? >> let me say this. i know that we have people out posturing and again we have all kind of folks that just want to sweep this under the rug and let the problem get even bigger. the fact is the two most important people are the president and speaker boehner. both of them in the beginning of this have shown a degree of flexibility. what we need to do, people like myself offer concrete solutions to solve this problem. when they get in their meeting they need to have these at their disposal and we as a country again need to go ahead and deal with this issue now. i know that senator durbin actually has shown some strength for what it's worth, i don't know what he will do today in his press co
take the high ground. i thank senator kerry, senator mccain, senator lugar, durbin, barrasso, coons, tom udall, moran, and many others and especially senator harkin, who is the father of the americans with disabilities act, for leading the way on this issue. with their help, i hope we can quickly ratify this treaty. mr. mcconnell: madam president? the presiding officer: the republican leader. mr. mcconnell: over the past few weeks americans have rulely started to focus in on the debate we're having in washington about how the two parties can work together to prevent a short-term economic crisis in january and an even bigger january crisis later on. so it may come as a surprise to many to see that with just a few weeks to go before a hard deadline on solving the short-term issue, president obama has decided to hit the road -- hit the road this week to drum up support for his favored approach. it's hard to believe really. i mean, every week he extend spends campaigning for his ideas is a week we're not solving the problem. it is completely counterproductive. the election is over. he w
back. eleanor, i'll start with you. let's listen to dick durbin and lindsey graham today. >> okay. >> there's a bipartisan bill passed by the senate that will spare 98% of taxpayers across america from any income tax raises and 90% of the businesses. it's a bipartisan bill the house should pass to make sure we go forward with these negotiations without this specter of tax increases for working families. >> i'm willing to generate revenue as it's fair to ask my party to put revenue on the table below historic averages. i will cap deducks. if you cap deductions around the 30, $40,000 end, you can raise a trillion dollars in revenue and the people who lose their deductions are the upper end americans. >> eleanor, it starts out one way and then it doesn't seem like there's a lot of room. how do you read that? >> i treed as thanksgiving rhetoric. i think the democrats are ready to deal with entitlement reform. zack put that on the table a year and a half ago when they came close to reaching a deal and the republicans are held up on the notion of tax rates. if you listen early to what s
dick durbin generally considered on the left of his party, he's saying, nobody should be so naive as to believe that just taxing the rich will solve our problems. he's telling the left that entitlement cuts must be part of any deal. that put him outside of what i have been hearing from the unions, mainstream democrats and the president. maybe that is a slight chink in the democrats' armor, if you like. maybe they will consider entitlement cuts. maybe he means next year after you work out tax changes now. bill: that's the way i heard it. get the changes before the first of the year then worry about reform in the coming year. on top of that there is a debt ceiling issue to tackle. steve forbes said go ahead and get a 90-day extension, take it into 2013. >> can you put together a complex agreement dealing with tax, spending cuts, debt ceiling, can you do all of that in a mere 30 days or do you take the steve forbes route, kick the can down the road. i'm not sure the vote terse would tolerate kicking the can and not dealing with it again. thank you, stuart. martha: you have got senate
last week, i talked to some of the top democrats in the senate side, chuck schumer and dick durbin. i asked them, are you guys putting entitlements on the table going into your white house meeting with the president and the congressional leaders, they said, no, we're not. that's not what we want to talk about. we want to talk about tax cuts. conversely when you look at house speaker john boehner, he talks about putting more revenue on the table but not increasing the tax rates, which is what democrats wan't to do. when they come back on monday and tuesday of next week they are still very far apart with the clock ticking. >> yeah. but how much do you hear the concept of compromise and from the major players? you hear those things, the word compromise being echoed around capital hill to some degree. for those who have to make the compromise, is it there? >> i think so. i think when you look at the tone and the public positioning that these guys have taken coming out of the white house meeting last week, for instance, you had all of the congressional leaders, both on the house and senate
the company. some entilement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator dig durbin, but thinks that social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, smaller things played out long-term that give it solvency. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want, but if president reagan and speaker o'neill could get a deal, president obama and speaker boehner should as well. >> harris: let's hope that's true. thank you. right now, a child missing, city on edge and volunteers going door-to-door to try to find young dylan. also, no longer a mysteries, but an official cause. we now know why a strip club blew up and more than 40 buildings and homes including a day care center were heavily damaged. debris for blocks. and we'll check with the firefighters injured trying to save lives. and can it get any bigger? the powerball lottery mightier and millions of americans buying tickets. are you playing? stay close. with verizon. hurry in this s
. >> brian: durbin said he would be interested in that. is the president going to keep it to 250,000? that is a negotiating point. if eric cantor said don't talk to me about raising rates that would be wrong. warren buffett says $500,000 should be the threshold. why is the president saying it's $250,000 or i am not signing it? >> kimberly: it's campaign promises. that is his political ideolog ideology. instead of what is best for the country. >> eric: put you on the spot -- >> kimberly: the math shows it won't make a difference. why is he doing it in any way? because he said he would. not good enough reason. obligation to the country. >> bob: he said he wouldn't allow tax cuts to go for people making that money. i think that between that and entitlement reform you will get a deal. >> eric: let me ask this question. i call grover norquist, what is going on here? he said read between the lin lines. only when democrats put up their end of the bargain they would negotiate. if they do, they can change the rate and close a loophole and they will violate a no norquist pledge. should the
to congratulate you for voting for simpson/bowles. you and people like dick durbin, i have tremendous respect for you to stick your neck out and say something a lot of politicians won't do. it isn't perfect, but it's where we have to go. thank you so much for coming on. senator tom coburn, who, again, my kids seem to love for some reason. thank you very much for coming on, and joe klein of "time" magazine. >>> up next, can president obama turn his voters into fighters? this will be fascinating. i found out how great the ground game was in florida. can he put this ground game to work to fight the fiscal cliff? the "hardball" story on that one is coming up right now, the place for politics. ts and hasbro trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> "the new york times" has just listed "jack kennedy: elusive hero," my book, on the best-seller list. it's a big honor for the paperback edition. it's a great book of american heroism, the story of jack kennedy, who he w
for your constituents. but today for example dick durbin, the number two leader of the democrats in the senate came out and gave a policy speech. he has a lot of credibility on deficit reduction. while he said medicare and medicaid changes in those programs should not be part of the first step, the democrats have to look at that down the road in order to be constructive on deficit reduction. this is a senator, liberal democrat, part of the gang of six, somebody with a lot of credibility on deficit issues. i think that opens the door a little bit. you're seeing it on the democratic side. you're seeing it a little bit on the republican side. >> both sides are going to have to open the door more than just a little bit. they're going to have to make a deal. >> because the one mandate from the public was fix things. >> fix it. and do it quick. gloria, thank you. cnn's getting exclusive new information and photographs of paula broadwell, her affair with jen david petraeus forced him to leave the cia. now her friends are coming to her defense. >>> and a 7-year-old cancer patient tries a
're making my point. where is the conversation about cutting, dir dick durbin, harry reid? >> the president sold a lie. the lie is you can have these goodies and it will be paid for if you tax the rich for more. that's economic nonsense. i want to give you one number. the unfunded liability of medicare, one entitlement program, is $42 trillion. that's money that we've got to shell out in the future, which we do not have. are you going to tell me we could tax the rich? >> i am not telling you, but this is what i'm saying, that the tax reform and entitlement reform should and could be a bigger part of this conversation, however to focus on the republicans now at this point i think is chasing a rabbit down a hole. it is not the republicans' responsibility to come up with a plan. president obama won fair and square. he's the won who needs to persuade america that the policy is right. >> sean: we have the exact same situation as we had before. all this money was spent, all the arguing over -- >> the house passed all sorts of bill to improve the economy in the last congress. you don't get anywher
the country that mobilize to try and stop cuts. the number two senate democrat, dick durbin, says he'd be open to look at entitlements, but not part of the fiscal cliff talks. here is the senate majority leader's view. >> at the meeting we had that i mentioned with president and the four leaders, president obama said that social security is not part of what is what we're going to do in this. i agree with him. and there are things that i personally believe there are things that we can do with entitlements that don't hurt beneficiaries. >> but if you have each side starting to take things off the table, it makes you wonder if at some point if gets harder to make a deal. shep. >> shepard: mike emmanuel on capitol hill. the white house and president obama will be making their case to regular americans this week. republican leaders say he should be negotiating, not campaigning. he's not the only politician planning a fiscal cliff road trip. we'll go to the white house and the fox report coming up in a bit. first, hours ago, more than 200,000 people crowded into the central square in cairo to call f
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